• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    10 days ago

    I think using more words to describe what is happening would help. I’m not sure everyone really understands what fascism is. Maybe mix it up a little?

    • authoritarianism
    • trump and musk are dictators
    • monarchy
    • feudelism
    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      9 days ago

      Need to #'Muricanize it more

      • Tyranny
      • Redcoats
      • “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” -Preamble to the US Declaration of Independence
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          Maybe the biggest problem is that anyone who would educate themselves on anything in the first place wouldn’t be supporting fascism. So the people who need to read it most won’t care. The only thing that will stop their support is if they’re personally hurt, and even then.

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            It took me a really long time to figure out what it really meant. I knew what it implied, but I hadn’t been exposed to those aspects of history. I agree that well educated people probably know, that’s why we should make it easier to understand.

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    9 days ago

    You aint see nothing yet. Wait till the Trumps celebrates 20 years of absolute control over your country and then we’ll talk. Americans chose fascism, explicitly.

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      9 days ago

      No, of the people that voted, a slim majority voted for fascism. I think that is an important distinction that will have consequences.

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        “people that voted” is not a thing. you can’t absolve the American people from this. 86 million people did not vote. in a two party system that’s not a vote for neither; it’s a vote for “I’m fine with both”. so around 160 million people were A-OK with explicit fascism. that’s a huge majority.

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        9 days ago

        I want to believe but I am forced to question the character of US citizens. I apologize if this offends and I would love to be proven wrong.

        Why would I expect the “good people” in the US who “didn’t vote for authoritarianism” to suddenly grow a spine and a social conscience if all the evidence for decades shows they can’t even take political action to protect their school children? This is unfathomable for someone in another country where just one mass slaughter of innocents would unify an outraged nation into decisive action. I think even the “good guys” might be more broken than you realize. There is no greater call on any parent than to defend their own offspring. If they can’t do that can they really be expected to defend the rights of strangers?

        I hope for your sake you can all reclaim your humanity. It is never too late.

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          I’m guessing you don’t know what it’s like to lack representation. I’ve lived in a red state all my life. My social circle is made up entirely of progressive people that want nothing more than to see sensible gun control approaches that start with adequate mental health care. I worry everyday my kids go to school that I won’t see them again. I really don’t appreciate you suggesting that I am failing my children by not effectively changing the system I was born into. A system that has been captured by the wealthy and used to hobble the education and information those around me are exposed to in a systemativ approach to maintain, grow, and enforce control. If it’s as easy as you seem to suggest, why would anyone live up under a dictatorship? Enjoy your soap box while I watch my country and the enviroment crumble around me, powerless to stop it thanks to the mass surveilance that surrounds us all everyday.

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            You’re asking for sympathy.

            We’re asking if there’s a reason to think you’ll bother to make the sacrifices necessary to end this insanity before it becomes total tyranny, war and conquest.

            You gave us absolutely no reason to think you and other Americans have any intention of doing that. You instead reinforced the case against Americans as weak, completely incapable of taking care of this.

            After reading what you have written I am even more certain in expecting Trump’s men to be allowed to rise to full and unchecked power.

            I expect most of you to do nothing about it, except weep.

            My guess is we’ll see you in 10-20 years, I’m sure it’ll be terrible. I just hope we win again, I’m not sure we will.

            But be sure that if the worst happens, you’re not getting any fucking sympathy.