Fritz von Papen.

talking to you is completely pointless because you have literally zero expertise in analysing politics.

Ahaha, okay.

You’re looking at surface waves like fucking Lanz talks while missing the underlying currents.

Sure.

I have no need or desire to be insulted.

Have a nice day.

So, trying to push through Merz’ 5-Points-Plan with the help of AfD is just an adjustment of rhetorics? Electing Populists as their leaders and speakers?

You’re defense of the CDU is bonkers, and I understand your arguments less and less.

The Greens being hawkish about Ukraine, wanting more money for the military etc was not a shift, to quote I think Hofreiter “We didn’t change, the circumstances did”.

You know what did shift without the circumstances shifting? The Greens’ attitude towards deportations.

Honestly, I don’t know how you cannot see the developments in the public discourse over the last couple of years as a shift to the right, from media landscape through parties. Are you blind? Or do you just not understand how that shit works and how a change in rhetorics and policies is carried by the party’s base when that base elects their leaders and speakers.

Schleswig-Holstein is in general more progressive-leaning than other states.

And I am not saying other parties didn’t also shift to the right, SPD and Greens certainly did do the shift, too. But in total, especially on the federal level which is the important level with the given context of the Bundestagswahl the CDU has shifted to the right as we can see in the change of their policies, rhetorics and elected leaders when compared to the Merkel era.

Yes. I listen what they’ve been saying for years in talk shows I also read up on law propositions and voting behavior. I see their proposed policies, how they argue them, what gets implemented in state governments. Maybe you should, too.

I looked it up and we’re both right and wrong. There was a vote, but it was about printing laws in german, additionally to english prints. And there is no federal official language, but some states codicized english as their official language, sometimes alongside other languages.

However, my point still stands as in the beginning, there were many different languages and they somehow managed to find a common one.

Dude the policies the CDU argues and proposes for are more right wing than under Merkel and Laschet. I don’t care how well the left and right wing of the party work together or who has higher popularity rates, the difference between Willkommenskultur and Ehe für Alle on one side and “refugees take the germans’ dentist appointments”, anti-woke rhetorics, trying to raise majorities with the AfD or the Bezahlkarte on the other hand are stark contrast and an actual shift to the right!

The CDU as a party, as it states their goals inntheir program, the politicians their base elects as their leaders and speakers and the rhetorics that are popular.

Merz already tried to form a majority for a vote in the parliament with the AfD, just a few weeks ago. There might not be a coalition, but I expect them working together.

The US did have that problem, too. There were settlers from all european countries who spoke all different languages, plus natives (albeit that the natives were genocided over time, so their languages were sorted out the other way), and at one point during the constitution process they had a vote on which language should become official. And it almost was german, btw.

Yes, they did shift. Their program is far more right-wing than a few years ago, the rhetorics, their propositions, are far closer to the AfD than even under Laschet.

Something has shifted quite dramatically. Under Merz, the C*U has shifted to the right, almost copying the extreme right AfD’s program in certain points, became very populist. A standstill like during the Merkel years could be a best case scenario atm.

Unfortunately, our projected future chancellor is very similar to Trump in certain aspects, especially rhetorics and spitting bullshit, then being utterly incompetent when asked specifics.

But he doesn’t. Because his mail shirt has a boat neck instead of a coif or hauberk. Ergo, bad armour.

It’s not good armour though. There’s a huge invitation to hack/stab into the neck/collarbone area and the chest plate is too long.