No they don’t. These headlines are telling you what you want to hear. Talk to people. The MAGAs love it. And Elon.
This silo-ing approach to information isn’t going to help any of us.
Yep. Anyone who wants can check old.badplace.com/r/conservative and still see nearly unanimous support for everything he’s doing.
I assume everyone knows what to replace badplace with.
They are my canary. When a few of them start to notice they’ve been had (and frankly I’m skeptical they will do so until someone they love is headed to a camp) I’ll believe there’s any substantive remorse among Trump voters.
Conservative has traditionally been the more normal thread while Republican is pure, unmitigated vitriol.
Honestly that just makes my point even stronger. The so-called sane conservatives are still cheering unabashedly.
Agreed.
Many is oversell.
Some is likely but not quite clear. If suspect many more faces will need to be eaten before there is any real shift.
The reports I’ve seen have all indicated those with eaten faces haven’t changed their minds.
The reports I’ve seen have all indicated those with eaten faces haven’t changed their minds.
Cippola:s 5 laws of stupidity.
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Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
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The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
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A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
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Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
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A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
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Just talk to people.
Hardcore Trumpers will NEVER regret anything. They’d walk into a gas chamber with a smile on their face and a song in their hearts, if Fuck Face waved them in. But to be honest – at this point, I don’t care if the truecvlt MAGAts love it or hate what Trump is doing, so long as they suffer in the long run. Let them laugh their way into ruin, so long as they are ruined, that’s all I care about.
Think of it this way.
There are a lot of places where Federal jobs are a mainstay of the economy. Maybe the VA hospital, or the military base, or a Federal office building.
When people see their neighbors losing their paycheck, it might start to sink in.
If it’s personal, sure. But if it’s not impacting their nuclear family unit, high odds it’s not a consideration.
Really. Talk to MAGAs. These headlines are a manipulation to keep Lemmy calm.
Nope, not until they lose their own, and maybe not even then. I love a great FAFO face eating story as much as the next, but you simply canNOT exaggerate the levels of cognitive dissonance these people are capable of enduring before their heads explode.
“I’m totally fine with being hurt, as long as I think you’re hurting them more.”
True. My MiL was just like “well, I guess we’ll just use oil lamps and live like the 1800’s” if everything collapses ignoring completely they are 100% reliant on medicare, social security, and the VA to live, as is her whole damn extended family. Fucking idiots.
She’s not wrong. They will live like the 1800s. For a while.
I give them 2-3 months tops
Nailed it.
You’re forgetting that the mentality of his base is “he isn’t hurting the people he’s supposed to be hurting” (which is an actual quote).
They want pure, vindictive cruelty against anyone who isn’t them. They’re just as evil as Trump is.
Nah. It’s very much a “if their job was important, they’d keep it” mentality. I live in a basically forever red state; tariffs on coal are specifically threatening to close mines in WV because the Chinese won’t import coal anymore (they are our biggest exporter). There isn’t a single whisper of why this is bad for us; Trump has pledged to keep the mines open for years. He could put the lock in the entrance himself and the miners would kiss his feet as he did it.
That’s scary.
I’m not counting on the hardcore MAGoos to change. I want the 90 million people who didn’t vote to wake up
Would be nice, but if this election didn’t wake them up, nothing is going to.
I’m surrounded by Trumpers, they’re everywhere around here. So far I’ve talked to one with regrets, and he knew better.
What really gets me is how he’s now complaining about stuff I warned him about back in September. He voted red because he thought it would help his imminent retirement. Also he didn’t like Kamala.
This guy really thought the whole platform they’ve been pushing would settle into business as usual, and now he’s a shocked pikachu.
None of the ones that I know care at all. They see it as if their sports team won the big game. I have checked in to see if they care about Musk’s Nazi salute, the response was “he was just excited and it was an awkward mishap”. Checked in about their taxes being raised in the new policy, the response was “I don’t know if that’s true.” Checked in about the unqualified appointments to high office, the response was “those are just smear campaigns by the left.”
Honestly, short of Elon or Trump showing up on their doorstep and kicking their dog, I do think they will ever think “Hey, maybe he’s not a good guy and doesn’t have my best interest at heart.” Fox News, Newsmax, and whatever the hell else these people have been swallowing has rotted their brains to the point that they will not see reality.
If their dog got kicked by musk or trump somehow the dog deserved it. That’s what we’re dealing with.
You joke. Sadly, I could see someone responding with, “I never liked that dog anyway.”
I’m not joking!
I wonder what a similar article about Biden in 2021 would have looked like. Not to defend Trump, but this is exactly what MSNBC’s readership wants to see, and it is suspect for that reason among others.
It’s only been a month? Oh no.
I thought they were joking, but no, it’s only February 😭
Fucking how? He was already president once and was terrible.
The idiot demographic gets what it deserves…shame it’s taking the rest of the world with it.
This president, more than any of his modern predecessors, has more national opponents than supporters, and given the recent trajectories, his support isn’t likely to recover any time soon.
But what kind of power do his opponents wield, are they willing to use it, and are they willing to work with each other? Many authoritarian regimes have lasted for many years, some decades, with minority support. As long as Trump keeps the billionaires on his side, I don’t see this changing for a very long time.
Many do many don’t. Maybe have a vote.
