“The USA should have never attacked Pearl Harbor and Japan!”
Damn japan did nothing wrong? /j
Those ships exploding could really have been dangerous to those low flying planes overhead. Very inconsiderate from the US people. Typical.
Fuck Trump!
It wasn’t even that long ago that the news was reporting on Russian troops massing on the border for a “training exercise”. How the fuck do people forget that Russia was undeniably the aggressor in this conflict?
Only Trump did I think.
The war dates before that. Since 2014 Russia had snipers in dombas.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-qO42qjShg
Only Trump did I think.
Unfortunately not, have seen quite a few on here just today regurgitating the idea that the Ukraine goaded Russia into invading, so it’s like, Ukraine’s fault and they started it. Or something. Fuck I hate people, just absolutely no shame, reality is whatever the hell they want it to be I guess.
For context, as a writer at The Atlantic described it:
The negotiators displayed mainly incompetence, as well as cringeworthy servility to their master in the White House. Trump’s part, though, was pure malignity. Shortly after the meeting ended, he criticized Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, lied about the latter’s polling numbers, and said, in a particularly callous remark, that Ukraine had had a seat at the table for three years. How being invaded and having your civilians tortured, raped, and slaughtered counts as a seat at the table is beyond understanding.
It’s not beyond understanding. It’s corruption and treason. Putin is now POTUS when it comes to Ukraine, and NATO apparently
‘Stupid’ just doesn’t encompass his complete and utter ineptitude
Unworthy of living could sum it up to some people
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This argument doesn’t make sense. Even if you do accept that NATO is not purely defensive because of what happened in Libya, blaming NATO for Russia invading another country that isn’t in NATO makes as much sense as me blaming my brother John for the fact that my other brother Robert was beating his wife, and then violently taking it out on John.
And that’s ignoring the reason NATO is expanding. It expands when new countries decide they want to join it. And countries at present are wanting to join it because they feel threatened by Russia. The reason for its expansion is Russia’s aggression, so to turn back and blame NATO for Russia’s aggression is completely backwards.
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I wonder why countries bordering Russia want to join NATO
After what NATO did to Libya you might wonder why Russia doesn’t trust NATO.
Not sure who asked them to.
And how did it turn out?
How did what turn out?
NATO’s intervention in Libya? Things haven’t been great for them, if you haven’t noticed.
What does NATO’s intervention in Libya have to do with countries bordering Russia wanting to join NATO?
Nato expansion has always sounded dumb to me too. Nato is a defense pact, it doesn’t ever attack so there is nothing for Russia to defend against. And if some countries were to attack Russia, them being in Nato is irrelevant since the other members won’t help.
Russia is the only European country that violates others borders. Everyone else agreed that wars are dumb and joined a peaceful union called the ‘EU’ or at least has close ties with it. Now Russia of course could have joined the EU too, but Putin chose not to.
Nato is a defense pact, it doesn’t ever attack
NATO bombed Libya.
NATO didn’t intervene in Lybia, it were just some NATO aligned countries.
If NATO did intervene, it would have included ALL NATO countries. As is the point of their pact. If one is at war, they all combine forces.
Since plenty of NATO countries abstained, it is therefore no NATO intervention.
It started as some NATO member countries on the 19th of March. My understanding is that NATO later voted on it to become fully involved by the 24th and took over by the 31st. That’s how NATO works - when a few members get involved, everyone else will follow.
Let’s imagine a few NATO member countries start bombing Russia. If Russia strikes back, the NATO pact means that all of NATO becomes involved. That necessarily means that if any NATO member country is involved, all of NATO is involved. NATO is basically a shield for NATO member countries to do whatever they want, because if anyone fights back it triggers the whole alliance.
US is negotiating on behalf of Russia while EU is jerking off in the corner like a pathetic cuck.
Ukraine is so fucked and free world is a bunch of limp dick clowns.
Ukraine needs nukes.
Ukraine needs Nato membership.
Fuck Russia and fuck Trumpland for opposing it.
NATO is not happening now.
EU will NOT do what it takes. Germany’s ruling oligarch clan wants Russian gas back on, everyone else can get fucked.
Ukraine needs nuclear weapons to defend itself properly.
I hope they already started the assembly. Ukraine tried to play by the rules and look where it go it. Geopolitics at the end of the day who has the guns and will to use them.
What is the eu supposed to do? Unlike the US our hand down equipment is shet, ukraine doesn’t want it unlike the us stockpile? So we have and will fund the war!
The unfortunate and sensitive truth of the war is, that russia has to “win”! It does if doesn’t want to repeat the October revolution! The thing is it can’t, what do you think what the fuck would happen if Ukraine got its nukes and strategic bomber fleet back bec russia broke the budapest accord? That Putin would shy away from a nuclear war if his gilded throne starts shaking?
If EU wants to be treated like a global player, EU should be deploying in Ukraine. Defeat Russia in its own back yard.
Then EU can start demanding to be treated like equal patner vis a vis US
That’s the thing about credibility, it requires hard sick power and result. None of which EU shown thus far.
Trump exposed EU for being weak as bitches and instead of EU doing the thing, they do more sumits and thoughts and prayers.
Nobody is stopping anynof EU member states to deploy in Ukraine. Russia got Koreans helping the JFC…
Because you americans sent your troops in? Need I remind you again that while your are handing down your worn out military equipment, we are going into debt to fund the Ukrainian war?
But I am going to ask you once again to think about what you typed! Oki, eu goes in with the troops, now what? Putin leader of strong big russian war machine, who by his own propaganda does claims to be able to rekt nato in it’s entirety, is not only threatened by the shame of not being capable of dealing with small poor ukraine and recreating the conditions of the oktober revolution but an actual invasion of a wildly superior force? Nuclear war! Nuclear war that will destroy all of europe including that of ukraine! But you don’t live here do you? Why would you care for hundreds of millions of lives here you american cunt!
I know this is going to be a strange concept for you, an american cunt, but the eu does not want to become a colonialist power! Unlike you american fucks we don’t want to risk nuclear armageddon so that your collective minuscular cock seems ever little larger!
Because you americans sent your troops in?
Trump doesn’t care if Russian invades the EU.
Nuclear war that will destroy all of europe including that of ukraine!
The EU defending Ukraine is no reason for Putin to commit suicide.
You don’t have the faintest fucking clue what u are talking about do you?
Eeasier there with a melt down dear.
Righties, claim that the other has a meltdown so that you don’t have to address their argument… This is sad mate!
It was Obama and Clinton not zelensky. Zelensky was merely their tool
Putin started it in 2014 by annexing Crimea and violating Ukraine’s sovereignty. That Ukrainians decided to depose Yanukovych was none of Russia’s business.
Yakukovych was democratically elected 🤡
Crimea voted to join Russia 🤡
